Investment Admin Fees: Which Cra Form Do You Need?

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Investment fees can be a complicated business, and it's important to understand which fees are tax-deductible and which are not. In Canada, the CRA (Canada Revenue Agency) outlines that a taxpayer is allowed to deduct fees that are charged for advice on the buying or selling of specific shares or securities, or for the administration or management of securities held by that taxpayer, provided that the fee amounts are reasonable. The criteria for determining the tax deductibility of an investment fee is found in paragraph 20(1)(bb) of the Income Tax Act (ITA). This means that fees for investment management and administration, including bank charges incurred to operate your business, can often be deducted. However, it's important to note that not all investment-related fees are deductible. For example, commissions paid on the trading of stocks and ETFs, transaction fees, and fees for general financial counselling are generally not deductible. Additionally, fees associated with registered accounts, such as Tax-Free Savings Accounts (TFSAs) or Registered Retirement Savings Plans (RRSPs), are also not tax-deductible. Understanding which investment fees qualify as tax deductions can help individuals and businesses maximize their tax benefits and ensure compliance with CRA regulations.

Characteristics Values
Form to use for investment admin fees T4A slip, T4A-NR, T5018 or T1204
When to use a T4A slip When the payment was not made to an employee and was made to an individual, trust, partnership or corporation for a service for a fee
When to use a T4A-NR slip When the recipient of the fee is non-resident
When to use a T5018 slip When the recipient is a Canadian resident subcontractor whose primary source of business income is more than 50% from construction activities
When to use a T1204 slip When the recipient is a Canadian resident and the payment is from a Federal department, agency, or Crown corporation
Tax-deductible fees Fees for advice on buying or selling specific shares or securities; fees for the administration or management of securities held by the taxpayer; applicable sales tax (GST, HST, QST)
Non-tax-deductible fees Commissions paid on the trading of stocks and ETFs; transaction fees to purchase and sell investments; fees for general financial counselling or planning; subscription fees for financial magazines and newspapers; fees in a registered account

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Carrying charges and interest expenses

The Canada Revenue Agency (CRA) allows you to claim carrying charges and interest expenses on your tax return. These are fees you pay to earn income from investments, and they can be claimed on Line 22100 of your tax return form.

Eligible expenses include fees to manage or take care of your investments, but only for non-registered accounts. These are expenses incurred for the purpose of earning investment income. Registered accounts such as RRSPs, registered retirement income funds, registered pension plans, segregated funds, or tax-free savings accounts do not qualify.

You can also claim fees for certain investment advice or for recording investment income. This includes fees for investment counsel, as outlined in CRA's Interpretation Bulletin IT238R2.

Additionally, you can claim fees for preparing your income tax return, but only if you meet certain conditions. These include having income from a business or property, accounting being a usual part of your business operations, and not using the claimed amounts to reduce your reported business or property income.

Most interest paid on money borrowed for investment purposes can be claimed, but generally only if it is used to generate investment income, such as interest and dividends. If your investment can only produce capital gains, you cannot claim the interest you paid.

Other claimable expenses include legal fees relating to support payments from a current or former spouse, common-law partner, or the natural parent of your child.

It is important to note that some expenses cannot be claimed as carrying charges and interest expenses. These include student loan interest, subscription fees for financial publications, and interest paid on money borrowed for contributions to registered investment plans.

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Management and administration fees

When determining if an investment fee is deductible, you should consider the criteria outlined in paragraph 20(1)(bb) of the Income Tax Act (ITA). According to the ITA, a taxpayer may deduct fees that are charged for advice on the buying or selling of specific shares or securities or for the administration or management of securities held by the taxpayer. Additionally, the fee amounts must be reasonable, and the fee-based services must be provided by a person or entity whose principal business involves providing buy/sell advice on specific securities or includes the administration or management of securities.

It's important to distinguish between fees in a registered account and those in a non-registered account. Advisory and other investment fees charged on registered assets, regardless of the investments held, are not tax-deductible. However, you have the option to pay these fees from within the registered account or from a separate taxable account. The optimal choice depends on the type of registered account and factors such as time horizon, rate of return, and tax rate.

For Tax-Free Savings Accounts (TFSAs), it is generally advisable to pay the fees outside the account to maximize tax-free savings. On the other hand, for Registered Retirement Savings Plans (RRSPs) and Registered Retirement Income Funds (RRIFs), the decision depends on various factors, including your time horizon, rate of return, and tax rate. Paying fees inside an RRSP or RRIF reduces the value of your tax-deferred investment but also lowers the amount of tax payable on future withdrawals.

When it comes to investment fees, it's essential to understand the difference between embedded fees and tax-deductible fees. Embedded fees, such as management expense ratios (MERs), are included in the product itself and are not tax-deductible. In contrast, tax-deductible fees are charged separately and can be claimed on your tax return, reducing your taxable income.

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Tax deductions and credits

The CRA (Canada Revenue Agency) allows you to deduct fees charged for advice on buying or selling specific shares or securities, or for the administration or management of securities held by you, provided that the fee amounts are reasonable. These deductible fee-based services must be provided by a person or entity whose principal business involves providing buy/sell advice on specific securities or includes the administration or management of securities.

You can deduct management and administration fees, including bank charges, incurred to operate your business. However, do not include employees' salaries, wages, and benefits in this category. These should be reported separately.

Investment fees that meet the above criteria can be deducted against any source of taxable income earned during the year. You may also deduct the applicable sales tax: Goods and Services Tax (GST), Harmonized Sales Tax (HST), and Quebec Sales Tax (QST).

Some investment-related expenses cannot be claimed as tax deductions. These include commissions and transaction fees paid for trading stocks, ETFs, and other investments; fees paid for general financial counselling or planning; and subscription fees for financial publications.

Advisory and other investment fees charged on registered assets, such as Tax-Free Savings Accounts (TFSAs) and Registered Retirement Savings Plans (RRSPs), are not tax-deductible. However, you can choose to pay these fees from within the registered account or from a separate taxable account.

For TFSAs, it is generally advisable to pay the fees outside the account to maximise tax-free savings. For RRSPs and Registered Retirement Income Funds (RRIFs), the decision depends on your time horizon, rate of return, and tax rate. Paying fees within these accounts reduces the value of your tax-deferred investment but also lowers the amount of tax payable on future withdrawals.

Additionally, investment fees related to segregated fund contracts are currently not considered tax-deductible by the CRA, as they are viewed as insurance contracts rather than shares or securities.

While mutual funds and ETFs have embedded fees as part of their management expense ratio (MER), these do not qualify as tax deductions. However, these fees are deducted by the fund before income distribution, reducing the taxable income for investors.

It is important to note that fees paid for someone to prepare or assist with filing your tax return may be deductible if you have income from a business or property.

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Investment fees in registered accounts

For a TFSA, where after-tax dollars can grow tax-free, paying fees outside the TFSA can maximise tax-free savings as they are not directly reduced by the fees. On the other hand, for RRSPs and Registered Retirement Income Funds (RRIFs), where amounts are taxed when withdrawn, the answer depends on your time horizon, rate of return, and tax rate. A fee paid inside the RRSP or RRIF is done with pre-tax dollars, which reduces the value of your tax-deferred investment but also reduces the amount of tax the Canada Revenue Agency (CRA) will collect on future withdrawals.

It is noteworthy that if you have a non-registered account, you can claim carrying charges and interest expenses on the Federal Worksheet in all provinces except Quebec, where you should report your carrying charges on Schedule N. Carrying charges include fees to manage or take care of your investments and fees for certain investment advice or for recording investment income.

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Embedded fees

In the context of investment administration fees, embedded fees refer to the costs associated with managing and administering investments that have already been paid and cannot be recouped. These fees are typically incurred by investment management companies or financial institutions and can include expenses such as operating and maintenance costs, taxes, and other unavoidable charges.

It's important to distinguish embedded fees from ongoing expenses when making decisions about asset utilisation and investments. For example, a landlord who owns a property outright might consider the purchase price, along with ongoing expenses like utilities and cleaning services, when setting the monthly rent. However, if rent prices drop, the landlord may believe that temporarily stopping rentals is a good idea until prices rise again. In reality, any income above the monthly expenses is a return on the investment because the embedded cost has already been incurred.

In terms of tax implications, embedded fees may qualify for special tax treatment, as they represent investments in a company's operations. Depending on the nature of the expenses and the applicable tax code, deductions or direct tax credits may be claimed for these fees. However, careful tracking and accounting of each embedded cost are necessary to qualify for such benefits.

Frequently asked questions

Carrying charges are expenses incurred for the purpose of earning investment income, although only expenses for non-registered accounts qualify. Carrying charges include fees to manage or take care of your investments and fees for certain investment advice or for recording investment income.

Carrying charges are expenses incurred for the purpose of earning investment income, while management fees are paid to a portfolio manager or investment advisor to cover the cost of managing your investments.

You can report carrying charges and management fees on the Federal Worksheet in all provinces except Quebec. For Quebec, report your carrying charges on Schedule N.

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